Exclusive to Luna!
Great! £299 for a plugin that can't be used elsewhere. It's not really a selling point. The price is a joke considering it's coding, and the fact I spent hundreds on UAD's Neve plugins already. They'll be more to follow so UAD can cash in further. I like the summing and Luna but don't get the price tag. I paid so much for the hardware (Apollo X8) and plugins
Great, but overpriced
Firstly, £299 is a joke. I already brought Neve plugins, so why can't these transfer to Luna. Seems like a new marketing plan to stings customers. £299 and it's only exclusive to Luna; sorry, no!
That said, I really like Luna, mainly because there's no noticeable latency. The integration is amazing. The simplicity is intuitive - I learned it in about ten minutes. I think I will track in Luna from now on, and mix in Logic. Good work guys!
Takes everything out of the box and welds it to your forehead
The depth and girth Neve summing are what I expected; the width and depth were an added bonus. Worth it's weight in Platinum...
well worth it
mixing through the neve summing is a real treat. helps fit in all your bits.
My demo just expired 2 days ago. Just bought it today tho. I had to buy it, it sounds amazing. If this was a plug-in and not extension, y’all could charge more. Just Canceled my protools subscription as well. Mixing a whole Album on Luna...
Trying out the demo now. I definitely feel the same as what Ben and Vance chatted on LUNA office hour, that it sounds huge and subtle at the same time, and you can't really specify what it's exactly doing. Very grateful that UA brought another gem to ITB mixing.
This is absolutely priceless!
Recording for 25 years
GOOD GOD. THIS IS AMAZING.
So, as some users have said, "we decided to try out luna." Im one of them.
Then we decided all to try the Neve Summing, cause why not....... RIGHT?
Then something terrible happened to me, and I'm sure all of you as well........
I came back to my mix from yesterday, and my ears literarily said WTF bro.
Then after farting around I realized my trial was over.
Now I have to spend my trump bucks on a AMAZING UA product.
You poisoned my ears with sonic magical-ness.
Where have you been my entire life?!?!?
I'm a composer and finished a project for SeaWorld/Busch Gardens just before the "shutdown" but decided to take LUNA on a "test run" and remix the stems for myself. End result? Well, let's put it this way, I'll never let them hear this mix because they'll wonder why didn't give them this?!?! It really is the difference between a good mix and a GREAT mix...I didn't even let my demo run out - I immediately purchased. Well done, UA. Can't wait to see how this program develops.
A Must Have...
I tried the demo and the results were amazing. This summing is $$$$
Please make it available for UAD-2 Cards, too
I had the possibility to test that plugin in another Studio with apollo interfaces. I only work with UAD-2 Cards. The Plugin sounds really great, but for now I cannot dive into this plugin without Apollo. Stay making plugins for all your DSP Products. That's the better choice for your future and please let your customers decide which hardware they want to use. I feel really sad about that fact.
I'm very sad....but for good reason...my trial ran out.
I would have given it 5 stars, had it been made to be a bit less money. I won't be stupid, and bit(h about why this is an "extension" , not a plugin. Its obvious UA is making Luna into something different than what we have been used to in the DAW world. I see a day where Luna has SEVERAL extensions. Plugins are meant to be "one size fits all" . These extensions , being made exclusively for Luna is a blessing, not a curse. They're woven into the fabric of the application. Meaning they will always work, and work well. You can't buy a ferrari door for a VW Jetta! Its UA's right to make these only for Luna. Otherwise they might have had to dumb them down to be a "one size fits all". The Neve Summing extension is an important piece. My trial period just ran out , and now Im very sad . Im usually not this poor, but because of Covid 19, all my gigs have vanished. Maybe if we all cry really loud, UA will drop one of those really cool coupons in our accounts. Then , happy I will be!
I'm not sure why every time I use uad hardware for the first time my initial thoughts are, something sounds off, but then after it's broken in I guess, I start to think, I've never heard anything sound so good! This was the case with Luna and Neve summing. First time loading it up, my Gain staging was correct using the faders or other trim tool when trying to mix internet samples, which had snowball effect of making Neve summing sound off. It wasn't until I used the clip gain after I saw someone use it in a video that I finally got the levels right, therefore making Neve summing sound the way it was supposed to. I ended my 14 day trial early and bought it that night. How, had? How! I'm ready to leave logic for my new women, as soon as dedicated I/O becomes available.
STOP CRYING LIKE A BABYS GUYS!!!
THE IDEA OF ALL THIS IS THAT YOU USE THE NEVE SUMMING AND WORK WITHIN IT INSIDE LUNA. THERE IS NO POINT AT WHICH YOU CAN USE THIS EXTENSION OUT OF THE LUNA, IT WOULD BECOME ANOTHER PLUGIN WITHOUT EXCITEMENT. SO PLEASE TAKE LUNA IF YOU CAN DO IT AND ENJOY THE PROCESS.!!! NOBODY IS TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR OTHER DAWS OR PROHIBITING THEM TO USE THEM. DAMN!!! JUST SAYING. AND THANKS TO ALL THE TEAM OF UAD FOR KICK TRASEROS WITH LUNA. I LOVE IT.
UA really hit it out of the park with this one!
I did a benchmark test comparing 3 mixes of the same song done in: 1) My usual DAW, 2) On a really nice early seventies Neve console, 3) In Luna with the Neve extension and Studer A800. Mix 1 and 2+3 are worlds apart, but 2 and 3 are ridiculously close!
The Fader and Pan-laws together with the fact that you can 'push' more signal into the mix-busses to get saturation, really makes it feel like you're working on a console. Neve Summing makes Luna feel and sound right!
All we need now is automatic track-freeze rendering the inserts when untouched - or alternatively LUNA Extension versions of the 1073, Helios, 610 and other console strip plugins. Then you could really work as you would on a desk, even with limited DSP-resources.
THIS THIS AND MORE THIS
Okay, so this whole neve summing was the reason I ever was interested in luna in the first place and now I open luna like it's pro tools. the harmonics from this thing, to the dynamics, this is everything. 2 switches and 2 knobs and its solid.
Another Piece To The Digital Puzzle But Please Make It A UAD Plugin!
The Neve Summing sounds great and really adds dimension and weight. I would love to use it on all my mixes, but not inside LUNA.
Unfortunately, LUNA in its initial version does not offer the necessary tools for demanding mix work yet. The system has a lot of potential and I strongly believe it could compete with major DAWs such as ProTools and Logic in later versions, but it is not there just yet.
Therefore, UA please make Neve Summing available as a standard UAD plugin similar to the existing Neve 1073 or Neve Preamp. I would be happy to pay $299 for such a plugin right away.
*. Mr Kite
Needs improvement because the VU meter is broken
I dig the sound, but unfortunately the VU meter does not work properly and thus is useless to check for proper levels in a bus.
What is the problem?
The problem is that the VU meter shows a a value of around -6 VU for a signal that actually has a value of 0 VU. You can easily check this with a signal generator plugin. Just set it to -16.2 dBFS (Apollo x4 and all the older Thunderbolt II Apollos) or to -20 dBFS (all the Thunderbolt III Apollo except the x4). This value equals +4dBu = 0 VU.
What is the solution?
The solution is to make all VU meters (same problem with the tape machines) within LUNA calibratable. Those meters need at least two different calibration points -16,2 dBFS and -20 dbFS.
UA knows the puzzle pieces us users need
Using Neve summing, I was shocked and amazed with the weight it added to my mixes. Super easy to use, yet it adds a nice wide clear image of what you run through it, very satisfied!