Analog Dialog: The Kind Producer, Joe Chiccarelli
The Nicest Producer/Engineer in Popular Music Talks Shop
The stereotype we tend to have of the recording engineer is the quiet serious character hunched over the mixing board grunting answers. Joe Chiccarelli sure cancels out that preconceived image! We were first introduced at AES 2002 by Bill Putnam Jr. and then ran into each other again at the Surround 2003 conference. He is an extraordinarily friendly, outgoing and social guy. Our mutual friend, the legendary guitarist Joe Gore, says, Joe Chiccarelli never has a bad word to say about anyone. I even tried to bait him with Courtney Love and all he said was, I worked with her for a couple of days and she was very nice and professional. Sheesh
Everyone has a Courtney horror story
I find that the new 1176s are better for vocals because the old ones are grittier. The new ones are cleaner, more open, and just sweeter on tape.
Joe is well known for having worked with Frank Zappa at a young age and recently did an amazing job remixing the Zappa Halloween LIVE album in 5.1 surround for DTS Entertainment. Dweezil Zappa tapped Joe to remix the live show that Joe had originally recorded in 1978.
People often focus on the Zappa work in interviews, but Joes engineering, mixing and producing credits are quite varied and eclectic. Hes worked with Beck, U2, Elton John, The Stranglers, Shawn Colvin, Rickie Lee Jones, Kronos Quartet, Cafe Tacuba, Lamb, The Offspring and some of my favorite records by American Music Club (that still make me cry.) Joe is excited about new releases that come out in March from new Warners artist Mandy Kane as well as a new independent artist named Peter Walker.
Joe and I got together recently for a chat when Joe was in San Francisco mixing some songs for the new Vanessa Carlton record. Hes such a nice guy he shared some of his secret techniques with me.
Joe Chiccarelli owns several vintage UA hardware units, an LA-2A, a couple of LA-3As and a couple of 1176s but he has worked with many of the new units as well. Does he see a difference between the vintage units and the reissues? They are slightly different. I think the new hardware is subtly different and theres pluses and minuses. To be honest, I think the new stuff is cleaner, quieter and retains more high fidelity than the old stuff. I think the old stuff has more distortion and color. Some times I like the new hardware more and sometimes I prefer the old hardware. I find that the new 1176s are better for vocals because the old ones are grittier. The new ones are cleaner, more open, and just sweeter on tape.
The new LA-2As dont darken as much as the old ones. When you compress the old LA-2As a lot, they get really dark, which is kind of cool sometimes and works in your favor. If you have a vocalist thats really harsh and has a lot of dynamic range, when they get up in the upper register they can get a little nasty sounding. If you get a compressor that kills that a little, it works in your favor. But other times you may have a vocalist that you just want to compress a tiny bit, but all of sudden they hit a peak
you lose a little air on the top end. The new ones dont do that as much. The time constants are a little different is my guess.
Joe with Interscope Artists, Lo-Ball
I dont want to dissuade anyone from buying a new unit because I think they are really cool. Ive been mixing a couple of projects on new units recently. I always use them on vocals. When Im mixing, Ill usually have an LA-2a or LA-3A on the vocal on the insert and Ill compress a little (2 or 3 db) but then I send it via a bus to an 1176. Its always an 1176, and I compress it a fair amount and blend a tiny bit of that in with the relatively uncompressed vocal and that helps sort of beef it up a bit without sounding too compressed. The only thing I found that works is the 1176 because it does seem to fatten it up and give it some character. It seems to help hold the vocal up there really big in the track. Ive tried it with other things like a vocal compressor or DBX and nothing works quite the way that the 1176 does. So for this kind of double buss compression, I think the 1176 works perfectly.
Joe is building a personal studio at Cello (formerly Western Recorders
) in LA. Why there? Thats my favorite studio in LA, actually one of my favorites in the world. Because it was designed by Bill Putnam Sr. I find that Putnam-designed rooms sound incredibly natural and are embarrassingly easy to record in. For my taste, Cello studio 1 is the best. You can put up any microphone in that room and it just sounds great. And Im talking about either a rock band or an orchestral recording; it just sounds great in that room. No matter what you do in studio 1, I just love the way it sounds. And that goes for all of his rooms, theres just something natural about the ambience. It just seems that the approach he took to building all those rooms was very smart, and I know nothing about his design philosophies. It just seems like he paid some attention to some basic acoustic principles and then made sure that instruments sounded like they were supposed to in the room and thats the first step for any great recording is that the instruments have to sound in their natural environment before you even turn a microphone.
And of course, Joe is going to be buying some UA hardware to add to the arsenal for his new room at Cello.
--Interview by Marsha Vdovin
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